Sunday, May 13, 2007

Day 38: Saussure or Peirce?

  • Not that I have to make a choice, but it seems these two "fathers" of semiotics do differ a lot in their approach to this exciting science of meaning-making.

  • As I slowly made progress on my literature review today, I carefully took notes of how these two contempraries differ. One was a prominent linguist, the other was a philosopher whose interest was primarily logic.

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Ferdinand de Saussure

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_de_Saussure

Saussure

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics

18571913), the "father" of modern linguistics, proposed a dualistic notion of signs, relating the signifier as the form of the word or phrase uttered, and to the signified as the mental concept. It is important to note that, according to Saussure, the sign is completely arbitrary, i.e. there was no necessary connection between the sign and its meaning. This sets him apart from previous philosophers such as Plato or the Scholastics, who thought that there must be some connection between a signifier and the object it signifies. In his Course in General Linguistics, Saussure himself credits the American linguist William Dwight Whitney (1827-1894) with insisting on the arbitrary nature of the sign. Saussure's insistence on the arbitrariness of the sign has also greatly influenced later philosophers, especially postmodern theorists such as Jacques Derrida, Roland Barthes, and Jean Baudrillard. Ferdinand de Saussure coined the term semiologie while teaching his landmark "Course on General Linguistics" at the University of Geneva from 190611. Saussure posited that no word is inherently meaningful. Rather a word is only a "signifier," i.e. the representation of something, and it must be combined in the brain with the "signified," or the thing itself, in order to form a meaning-imbued "sign." Saussure believed that dismantling signs was a real science, for in doing so we come to an empirical understanding of how humans synthesize physical stimuli into words and other abstract concepts.



Charles Peirce

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sanders_Peirce

Western Philosophy
19th/20th century philosophy

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics

Charles Sanders Peirce (18391914), the founder of the philosophical doctrine known as pragmaticism (not pragmatism, which was founded by WIlliam James and others) preferred the terms "semiotic" and "semeiotic." He defined semiosis as "...action, or influence, which is, or involves, a cooperation of three subjects, such as a sign, its object, and its interpretant, this tri-relative influence not being in any way resolvable into actions between pairs." ("Pragmatism", Essential Peirce 2: 411; written 1907). His notion of semiosis evolved throughout his career, beginning with the triadic relation just described, and ending with a system consisting of 59,049 (= 310, or 3 to the 10th power) possible elements and relations. One reason for this high number is that he allowed each interpretant to act as a sign, thereby creating a new signifying relation. Peirce was also a notable logician, and he considered semiotics and logic as facets of a wider theory. For a summary of Peirce's contributions to semiotics, see Liszka (1996).

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